Regards 1940, I have enjoyed reading all of your comments, because my Mother was so proud to have lived there, and reminisced so often. Miss Gibbs. Hi David, yes, I remember Keiths Cars being there for many years &, as Richard S says, it is now a tyre dealer and I remember Pitmans just opp. also the restuarant above the sweet shop in Green Lanes which was opposite the Queens Cinema? It is the oldest remaining pub in Palmers Green to have continuously stood on the . A German bomber 'plane was overheadand tragically his bomb carriage was blown off, so all the bombs came down together in Palmers Green. That would have been where visitors could wave to their loved ones in the hospital. It is open on Sunday afternoons from 2.00 to 4.30pm Model Boating Pond The Model Boating Pond was dug in 1903, shortly after the opening of the Park. He played an accordion and the drums for many of the big orchestras and hotels in central London. I went back to PG last year for a look around and was amazed at all the cars parked in my old road, Lynbridge Grdns as when I lived there there were none. An elderly man worked there and a younger surely man. Trusted memories of the museum - Palmers Green Jewel in the North They were green wooden gates. weve already ad enough laughs for the day over your conviction that The Sahara Desert is in the middle of Australia. If so I knew him, he was a great friend of my Father Frank Watling who found the Fives Social Club. Play nicely please. Yes Bob good memory, striking looking car, my MK 3 Cortina was yellow with black vinyl roof, which was unfortunately mostly removed by a group of baboons at Whipsnade safari park during a warm summer in the 70s, I believe the place has now closed. Dad was in the ARP with your uncle, I have been trying to find some photos of the ARP at Palmers Green but as yet not successful. Hello Jenny, Organising A Cremation Funeral In Palmers Green. What a great guy he was. Hi Reg. It had engraved glass in it and behind this door there was a barbers shop with two chaps who cut mens hair. plate MAX 2 and Stephen Graces. However, you might ave missed as Waitrose now sez ere in Cornywall.Hazelwood Lane an the Pilgrims Rest (maitred, a Swiss gentlemanlater to command The Cherry Tree on Southgate Green) tho never done it better than Pilgrims in my an my Patricias opinionOther Cafes in Lunnon Town.. Savoy, Carlton Towers, The White House, Tante Clair etc..an them Cafes in Bray, Berks, dont make it in my list but that MacDonalds (you know, the one just across the road from Valencia (Espagne?) I was Yvonne Farmer and our form teacher was Mrs Phair. Also Broody and Hicks who sold cameras in the 1970s. N21. The one on the right going North was Cullens The coffee machine was dark red and black.Cullens also had another outlet nr the Cherry tree at the end of the Mall. I remember going there with my Grandmother in the 40s/50s. He was on duty the night a German bomber that had been badly damaged by ack-ack fire abandoned his bomb load on the dance hall above the shops in Green Lanes between Princes Avenue and Tottenhall Road. Coronation fireworks display in the park. What's On - Palmers Green Community Anyone remember The North London Decorating Company at the junction of The North Circular and Green Lanes? Cafe between Gambles an J an Adams (Ma says not goin in there Raymond, too cheep ) on our way back from The Palmadium. To supplement income he was a musician from 1926. Thats where I bought my comics tooBeano, Whizzer & Chips and Sparkey. And how kind he was to. I also got a passion for steam trains watching them working the sidings at the station. Palmers Green - Hidden London Annyway I have told already of my Mum on this lovely chat previous, being part-time life saver and attendant at THE POOL, she could not swim a stroke. Janes and Adams was my first job after leaving school circa 1959. 23 Green Lanes, Palmers Green, London N13 4TN, UK. Wishin you Happy New Year! Living in The Larches 1938off to Devon November 1940..back to Palmers Green 1946..11+ and off to Southgate County School. There was a big fat man with tattoos who ran it and used the F word all the time. The owners were brother and sister Dominic & Anna both born in Italy who arrived in England after the second world war,they were very hard working & organised, so much so they only lived 200 yards opposite in Tottenhall Rd. Dobbin fell over on the slope below the New river bridge in Hazelwood Lane when the road was very icy one winter and we all rushed out with buckets of cinders to spread over the road so the horse to get e grip and get back on its feet, luckily no harm was done and the milk was just a bit late being delivered that day. For the streets to have virtually no cars? It was owned later by a mate of mine Bruno. Do you mean `Tom the flower man at the Triangle next door to Woolworths? I remember Tom I worked opposite him at Triangle Cars for 5 years in th 60s . Thanks for the info. My parents bought our very first television from them a Bush table model which was also installed by them. Sylvia & Pennie have jogged my memory of Doms cafe in Palmers Green. I used to have a paper round in the paper shop top of hedge lane and green lanes in 1963 I got fifteen Bob a week Mr pogson was the proprietor does any body remember him. In the last few years Windsor Rd closed and we had to go to W Hill. I remember the shop well.think it was called Cullens. But it is the cramped interior, with drawers reaching up the the ceiling, full of mysterious items linked with the esoteric art of higher level dressmaking that wont leave my memory, and the old ladies (probably not that old, but thats how I recalled them aged less than 9, when we moved from PG). A hardware emporium and a very old fashioned (even then) gift/tobacco /sweet shop toward the end of the parade. although i dont remember it having a cafe, maybe it did before my time though. The price stickers rather than bar codesThe staff cafeteria the bag searches as you left the building after a shift etc etc. Sue Beard, who runs the Palmers Green Jewel in the North website, has discovered a 15-minute film about Grouts , the former Palmers Green emporium of tea towels, socks, knickers and corsetry that brought a glimpse of pre-WW2 (and even pre-WW1) shopping into the 21st Century. I also remember Burtons at the triangle and having a girl friend who lived in Tottenham road and the estate agents around Doms cafe including Dennis, Maxwell Miel who had a reg. AnnywayI bought my first camera from Mr Kalms (Dixons) Edgeware (Agfa Silette) on the knock (so much a week) and cycled to Edgeware to pay the monthlya Canon copy of the Leica followed f1.8 lens but paid its way at weddins and I think I was one of the first to get back with ome developed colour (Ferrania) to the celebrations in them days. These chairs had the smallest seats Ive ever seen and I often thought it was a miracle that my Gran ever managed to perch on one. I then went to Much later in I guess the 70s? . My main memory of the Queens Cinema was the film The King and I which I watched there with one of my friends Malcom Oldhill. They were great times at that school but I then left at 11 to go to Ambrose Fleming Technical Grammar School for boys, what an awful place, hated every minute and left at 15. My Grandparents ,my mother and my god mother were residents of Palmers Green in the 1910 onwards til abt. Since the fake University of Palmers Green didn't come into existence until 1998, the good doctor is not only using two fake degrees, he is lying about when he got them! Where do you live now? The history of the Parish St. Monicas Parish Edwardian Housing Estates in Palmers Green and Grange Park Dear Ken. Winchmore Hill - Wikipedia At the time Kennings had a garage in Edmonton which I remember was a Jaguar dealer so I imagine our old car hire site was the Jaguar dealer you recall and would most likely have also been a Kennings branch. Areas like Palmers Green have changed a great dealover the years;the memories of others help us see where we live with new eyes. Palmers Green past - Facebook The manager was named Mr Hemmings and his daughter Lesley was a good friend of mine in the Girl Guides at St Johns Hall, Open in Google Maps. Remember the Windsor Caf. In 1914 he was commissioned into the Middlesex Regiment as a 2nd Lieutenant and was killed on 1st July 1916 at the Somme. My name is John Bye, I dont know if you remember me. Your memories may come from non-local areas, this is permitted as long as the page content is mainly about our locality." Last updated: October 2015 xx, Hi Local records mention a Palmers Field in 1204 and a Palmers Grove in 1340. .and ALWAYS ordered egg, sausage & chips. Rosalie lived in Palmers Green during the war, and provided this memory of her wartime life as part of the BBC project the WW2 Peoples War, an online archive of wartime memories contributed by members of the public and gathered by the BBC. Any idea of what it was called? I remember the tremendous explosion and my father tying the washing up bowl over his head with a towel and running down Sidney Avenue to help. More please! I remember one of my friends falling into the river off the bridge and clambering out the other side after swimming under the bridge in the river current. Does anyone have a photo of prewar broomhill park with its original railings? The day the dance hall fell silent - Palmers Green Jewel in the North Ken Elvery, I suppose those of us `of a certain age` have lots of war memories stored away. Cameracraft now theres a blast from the past too! Hi Dave, I do remember you and your dads photography business. Do you remember a bus that got his by a bomb during the war as no one seems to have any photos or accounts about this. In 1961 the company was acquired by Car Mart Sales Ltd, but retained its name. Anyway againthanks for reminding metime to order on the net, Bovril, at Sainsburys Bude, not Winchmore Hill Broadway. I could go on and on reallybut one last one for now the Box o Chicken next to Martins the newsagentand I remember that bloke in Martins, youre right he did look like Reg Varney!! Lots of happy memories of Palmers Green ice cream at John Coombs sweet shop. He was ARP in WW2 and a member of Fives Clubafter the war ended 5s Club held a party for local children in the club house. After my first day in Old olborn never wore the suit agin at work or come to think o it, any suit (retired 1988). OK sorry Lorna, but just thought the name being similar and all that. He said there was money all over the place and as far as he could see it was all being collected up to be given back, The other corner was also hit and certainly Keith`s cars set up business there and eventually on both sides of Sidney Avenue, becoming a flourishing business. Okay Pennie. Aldermans Hill had some fascinating shops too.the tiny pet shop opposite the station, the flower man then on to an electrical shop where I bought my first portable telly for my room with my first wages! The award-winning Orchard was created by volunteers in 2009 on the site of a disused bowling green. I remember that day vividly as, just as the tv was made to work, on the screen we were just in time to see the Boat Race with Oxford sinking up to their waists in water. Church under rev. As a schoolboy I attended Southgate County Grammar School in Fox Lane from 1948-53, and remember admiring new Jaguar cars in the Saul and Slatter showroom in Aldermans Hill. House backed on to the river. I remember the Ford Zephyr. The shop later became an extension to Gateway Film Productions (where I worked). Lovely shops, great parks such a pretty place. People who have only had soft ice cream have no idea what theyre missing. But you are right about the window where you got served. Regards David. Dordrecht, Netherlands. Since opening its doors in 2014, FUFU (meaning lucky) has established itself as one of . David.just seen your mail regardin Palmers\Geen Photo istory and sees you now lives in Australiado you know my cousin Jill Rann (as was) lived at 22 The Larches.N13? Yes, very tall, Scottish doctor with elderly receptionist and very noisy gas fire. As previous I lived in the Larches from 1938 at no 64. I think your Father was there too. I also remember being taken into a shelter during this time due to the `doodle Bugs, although I was only about 3-4 years of age. Can someone confirm the existence of a Tesco store in Palmers Green at this time? also the Unigate milkman who had an electric cart and kept saying oh brother. Lorna, is it possible the furniture store you refer to was Ways? The ford zepher was back in the 60s it would have been the 70s in PG. Annyway she sees the ambience of Palmers Greenery so later Dad as to buy a property to satisfy er haspirations Palmer Green wise N14annyway my Palmers Green is Jewell in Crown (I am salutin you er Majesty) no rushkeep crackin on, eh? Some of the musicians achieved International fame (not meI was on drums) . By the way I went to Winchmore Secondary Modern in the days when Mr. Shepherd was headmaster I liked him a lot the naughty kids called him the beak but he was a nice man. As Mr. Auger sed want to be a farmer eh-eh-young-un? You done a bit of boxing? Arnos and remember Mr collier miss wastel and headmaster Mr Rossi also school nurse nitty Nora! Sadly the open air pool no longer exists, I believe it has been replaced by our Council recycling centre on that site. Im doing some research on my family who lived in Tottenhall Road where teenagers and young adults hung out. I was Jean cook then with a brother Brian l remember the bombing of the dance hall between princes avenue and Tottenhall rd and the trolly bus wires catching fire and my friend Louise loosing a leg l remember Doreen young and Gary spicer.also the smell of Mac fisherys shop. She was a lovely lady; then onto Junior school run by Miss Belfontaine, who was a bit of a demon but very good at her job. It was a super meeting place for a great crowd, all feeling very sophisticated drinking coffee from glass cups. Opposite were the cottage gates where Italian Prisoners of War sold the plaitings of straw for pocket money. St. Clements Press. After the war he ran various bands Bert Harts band any combination. Used to live in Palmers Green (1976-1983). I remember juke box was playing a lot of Take these Chains From my Heart and set me Free. Remember Roberts toy shop near the corner of Hazelwood Lane? , some of my best memories of that time. Hope this helps. Hi. Doms! the smell as you walked anywhere near it .lovely. In Green Lanes itself there were 2 jewellers too. Annyway she, (my Ma) also directed me to buy my first suit from them (powder blue with just a touch o pink pin stripes) for my first day to work in 1950. Some are specific others generic. Also Jack the window cleaner who lost a leg at the Somme. hang across the window pegged on string!!! I was given an anointing spoon to commemmorate the big day. Meldrum. later..no rushsheep on the boil. David. I remember Dr Baxter well, he plastered up my left hand when I broke a finger playing leapfrog at school! The small side road was Devonshire Avenue which continued behind the shops and ended near the railway station at the Triangle. Very interesting. After several meetings of our Catchreeling Society, girls were allowed to participate. The Fox stands in a prominent position on the corner of Green Lanes and its namesake, Fox Lane. Many years later when I was adult he told me what he saw. In answer to your question about tescos, I worked there for many years and there was a Tescos there. I cannot believe Miss Hughes was still there in 1960s. The garage was, or became Kennings opposite Camera Craft. There was a garage forecourt at the top of Hedge Lane where in intersects with Green Lanes, Was that a WW2 bomb site does anyone know? Opposite Grouts well almost. Clock out 5.30 pm and ride home. Dave then joined him at Kelvin and we became great mates and we would go to Arsenal matches together. He was a bit of a nifty jiver down Wood Green Jazz Club. "One night in March 1941, the Dance Hall (held in the Princes Hall above Pitman's College) in Green Lanes, Palmers Green was bombed. Happy memories of Greenwood Gate Tennis Club in the Rec too, circa 1959 1963. julia, I remember Victor Value, we used the shop sometimes. I was just 15 and left school to become the first employee your father Aubrey gave me my first job and I never looked back and went on to become a photographer in the RAF as national service was compulsory at 18 after I joined a Photo retail shop in Turnpike lane named A M DAVIS after I started my own career in Muswell Hill N10 Then went on to open 7 more shops before starting a Franchise called FOTOVALUE with over 1000 outlets throughout Europe allowing the owners to retain their own name with just banners to say the where part of Fotovalue. Remember the old peoples home burning down in 1966.Buses were diverted down Windsor Road. There was nearly always a queue to have your hair cut and my Mum would go shopping while I and my brothers sat and waited next to the coat stand. Can anyone help?my partner is looking for his father.his fathers name is trevor george burgess and the only info we have is trevors mother lived on princes ave palmers green.if anybody knows of the above person and can help my partner find his dad please contact me on 07986272734.thankyou for reading x. The chemist at the top of Hazelwood Lane was called Cross & Herbert. He really lowered the tone of Palmers Green. (appy Famiily memories agin, eh? Biking from The Larches to Holborn Kingsway, clock in at 8 am, carry bike up 4 flights of stairs, no smoking allowed, no sitting down cept lunch time at the frame. I lived in Pasteur Gardens from 1960 to 1966, and went to Oakthorpe School and the Latymer. No seats until the Union got a concession. We dashed under our iron table which was a kind of indoor shelter. Winchmore Hill And Palmers Green Memories Join group About this group This worldwide local history, nostalgia and memories group has been active since 2012, we have thousands of photos in our albums and many memori See more Private Only members can see who's in the group and what they post. Does anyone remember Victor Value supermarket in Wood Green it was not far from the Civic center and before myddleton road. We lived just at the top of Sidney Avenue in Palmerston Road and I remember crouching under the kitchen table as a very small girl with my mother and my brother and I can still recall the sound of the planes going overhead and the gun fire. Annyway, do you ave a clue as to whether the proprietor ,Mr. Pogson was related to THE Mr. E. O. Pogson. He made me move it in all directions to see what damage Id done and he really hurt me but he was so stern that I was too scared to complain and laid there with my eyes filled with tears but kept a stiff upper lip and wouldnt cry as that would have been seen as weak! Well the years are rolling back! Did I swap it or sell at a profit. Visit Palmers Green places using Walkfo for free guided tours of the best Palmers Green places to visit. No Dave,my brothers name is Derek married to Cathy. So my story really jumps forward to 1944. My father was in the home guard and attended when the bomb dropped at that site, it was a dance hall at the time. (Miss Watts?) Spent a few happy days with him and also his parents at their house up by the new river. The other memory was of the caf Doms (Dave Todd 1/7/14) where they sold really delicious ice cream too! Just read (13.10.17) email of your history contribution. I cannot recall any other bombs round that area. I really love this website for bringing back all those memories stored in the depths of our brains. My brothers and I were trying to remember where the furniture store Jays was located in Palmers Green, can someone help. When I lived in London and just started my business Aubrey would do most of my black and white printing and I also did a few weddings for him. After the Quick Service Cafe Bruno in 1967 moved 100mts to the corner of Princes Ave/Green Lanes & opened a coffee bar called The Bezazz Bar.Juke box, two pin ball machines, served tea/coffee/& light snacks.Spent most of my teenage years using this coffee bar as a meeting place to ponder over a two hour cup of coffee to decide what our next move would be!! I went there with my sister and her friends I think the Small Faces were signing autographs ? Other teachers were Miss Sweeny who would let you ring the bell if it was your birthday, Miss Calcott (horrible) and Mrs Dark. Veluchis barber shop near the Triangle- only one and three pence for a mod style hair cut. National Service. Intended for professional and scholarly audience. Around the mid 60s lovely to see we all grew up in such a cherished place. He said the new housing development that is now Myrtle Road just off The Fairway (where I was born),was built on the site of a Nursery. very posh! He was very tall, very Scottish and prescribed bottles of Minadex (green and foul tasting) for almost all childhood ailments! My parents bought our furniture there. Lived in Melville Gardens and Grenoble Gardens. Sylvia. Our dentist was Mr Finkel and I remember a story about a wall falling down by his house and squashing someone! Also Miss Stenson, Miss Wrigley or Wigley, Mr Philips, Mr Johnson and Mr Hart. I retired at 44 and have now become an expect at doing nothing. To Gerry Hicks- yes I remember you, you had a wife called Rose and a daughter called Carol? Will email direct Inside, the shop was very long with a back section which you rarely ventured into, mainly sheets and towels and net curtaining, Down the middle of the shop, arranged on chairs were tatty cardboard boxes holding items like socks, childs vests etcspecial offers, I guess! Bamboo cane area dividers, Italian shiny coffee machines and music.. The following year came a new head Mrs Cannon in 1968 I went up into the juniors and the head there was Mrs Gibbs . I also remember Vic Madden the window cleaner. So many happy memories. I worked in Tesco in Palmers Green when I was 16 years old in roughly 1990. I studied at Southgate County 1946-1950. 2 min read. Hi Jenny ! I farms in Cornwall now an apologise for the grammer neglected at Southgate County Grammar (an spellins). Im not sure where Jays originated in Croydon or elsewhere but in any case it appears to have ended up as a national chain, with branches in places such as Bristol, Luton, Northampton, Croydon and Sheffield, as well as areas of London including Palmers Green, Stoke Newington, and Walthamstow.. My parents told me that they, as newly weds, lived in a flat over the Dolls Hospital in Palmers Green. Magic for post-war Palmers Green teenagers. Gerry, my email is g.hicks@msn.com would like to know more as cant use laura@yahoo.com my mail is returned. Palmers Green - a nostalgic memory of Palmers Green Palmers Green My grandmother lived at 50 Old Park Road, opposite Bloomfield Park, and I went to school at Franklin House School in Palmerston Road from 1955 to 1960, then the Winchmore Hill Collegiate School from 1960 to 1962. If notat last space for my clockwerk trainset (O guageTrix or Bing(not Hornby? Memories Of Green (Remastered) - YouTube Hey are you the same Anne Poole from Southgate SC. Did your dad run a newspaper stand by The Fox. It was a large detached house surrounded by a beautiful garden which took up the whole of that corner site. I worked at burtons at the triangle in the 60s until at closed inthe 70s some very happy memeries of those times. I bet you noticed big changes to the shops in PG when you went to The Fox. I met him later as a tenant in one of his many properties and worked for him for a short while in the 90s. It is being discussed today and frequently, on my Facebook page Winchmore Hill And Palmers Green Memories. She must have been quite young then (unless it was a different Miss Hughes), but then young children think anyone over 20 is old. When I was in the juniors my friend and I used to like nothing more than to lay down on the railway bridge near the Church at the top of Hedge Lane and let the smoke of the trains roll over us. Wonderful. Reg I remember you from St Michaels at Bowes, I recall you had a interest in meteorology, and went on to Arnos School ans I went to Winchmore Hill Secondary. Ray. Going back toward Hedge Lane on the North sideremember a chap who used to make basket work/wicker goods/walking sticks? Mum was Pool Attendant at Barrowell Green but we still had to join those long queues to get in..so long a waitso full had to wait as Mrs. Barry only allowed the extras in as people left. You walked up a long gravel path under the pergola to get to the house which had dark wooden panelling etc., very posh! I dont remember you should I? Im sure he was in my class at Winchmore? And the wonderful smell our school on fire by insendery bombs ,also the sky appearing like a red sun set and being told it was London docks on fire.mr rodwell Mrs green are. I dont remember it being a bomb site though, Hi Jennie, Key Study: Leading questions and the misinformation effect - " the car Tall and imposing, for those coming to Palmers Green from the north, it acts as a gateway into Palmers Green's main shopping area. Maybe it was rebuilt very quickly or my memorys going! I do remember though looking at one of those planes that were bombs without pilots (forgot what they were called could it be doodle bug) with my dad and its engine stopped right over head. It was never built on, apart from a temporary building. Was this the Barbers that was in a room behind Glossops the sweet and tobacco shop. He was simply the best jiver (having been a professional dancer in his younger days). I dont recall the cart. Then out agin on bike round to Patricias house and on to Capitol Winchmore Hill (if in money) or Queens, Palmers Green. Yes..most definitely, I have a memory of a house flattened at the bottom of Park Avenue near to NRC. Train Station (not the new International Train Hestacion) (tho the coffee an croissants is worth a go ere (ambience etc)) Soits between Palmers Green Pilgrims (overalls, ambience) etc., Valencia, McDonalds (frys) and Sgt Craven (Army Caterin Corps) attached Rifle Brigade (Winchester)Savoury Mincenow for Lamb Chops a la Remoska at Colebrook Cornywall. thanks to Mr Sheppard, our brilliant Headmaster who never gave up on us and of course Mrs Phair who was the most fantastic teacher ever created-.such a `one off, Dear David and Pennie, must interjectno rushannyway, avin a larf in cornywall now and rememberin Palmers Green an Winchmore ill.
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