I forgot to say that I used 7.62 ammo. The 168-gr Match Hollow Point load was giving me 3-shot groups close to 3/4-inches and I had to check several times, to make sure all three rounds were hitting the target they were that close often just one ragged hole. The gun that Ruger made is very close to the guns I saw on the line at this years Bushnell Brawl. The Swedish Mauser tend to be accurate when they should not be, yet each one is different. Barrels can be easily replaced by a competent gunsmith using AR-style wrenches and headspace gauges. That model rifle earlier reviewed in 6.5 Creed. In a survival situation, we have to look at a lot of different things, before we pull the trigger on someone, who is on our property maybe they are just lost, and pose no real threat to us. Every big gun magazine is copying his experiments! This is not a surprise since the R700 is contoured and the RPR has the flat AR fore end. But this gun is so well thought out and functional. I havent shot this Ruger, but I do own a 20 DPMS AR-10 its definitely not a 1MOA rifle. After a short while it was like you said, what recoil? Nuff said! All shooting was done over a rolled-up sleeping bag, over the bed of my covered pick-up not an ideal set-up, but I didnt want to chance my windshield getting broken from the muzzle blast. Hmmm, your comment about having sell your 300 win mag when newly married, struck a cord with me, as I did the same thing. Shooting a thousand rounds would do the same thing. It also seemed that several guys had bad bores, and some noted that they had .5 MOA cold, but broke down as barrel heated (and some posters were able to get consistent .5 MOA from the get-go). The rifle for this review was provided by the Kentucky Gun Company. Its all over the place at that range. However, as you well know, the 7.62 NATO works just fine, and is the smartest cartridge to own. We shot some anyway, just to see how far off they would be. Hodgden lists a load of 46.3 grains of IMR4831 at 2,700 fps at a pressure of 45,400 cup out of a 24 barrel, the length of a Swedish M38 barrel. They make them for the RPR. For a serious shooter, barrels tend to be more accurate after a thousand rounds. I always preferred iron sights until I had to accept the fact that I was in need of readers. Yet a scope would have to be mounted. While the 6.5 is obviously more accurate, its heavier and more unwieldy to maneuver out of and around vehicles and barricades, where I spend the majority of my time shooting. In 6.5 Creedmoor, follow up shots will be even quicker as the recoil is very mild, You should be able to see the hit and adjust and be ready to fire again. Ive done more OCW tests than I can recall and never came close to 1MOA consistently. Im hoping these will be decent.. My original goal was to try to use this for 1000 yd. Item Number: 6803. Otherwise, not every barrel is going to come off the line with the same accuracy, especially before theyve been worn in. Especially with the different ammo you fed it. With the same brake, and a bit more weight, shooting a lighter recoiling cartridge, the 6.5 is still the pussycat of the two. It all about taking the time to do some quite deliberate tests. My Rock River LAR-8 shoots the same bullet .75 MOA. A cubicle-dwelling technology sales professional by day, he is an avid starter of projects, purchaser of speciality tools, and aspiring chef outside the office. Its a 2+ MOA rifle. so check Salt N Pepa Jacket which is a most selling outfit in our store, Shop now and get amazing discounts and offers. Factory ammo is plentiful and cost competitive with factory match .308. Ruger still very much has a winner on their hands. Had to go buy a large expensive gun case to return to ruger couldnt fold stock to get it back in factory box. A sniper rifle is a rifle used by a sniper it is not a specific type or caliber. In the 29 barrel of the M96, the bullet might be 50 fps faster. had about 1\2 min. Very well said. Canadians used .303 Lee Enfields. Think theyd ever release a 20 SR762 in a configuration like this? Never got it back, oh well, history I guess. Take it from a Canadian. Ive found that with their match loads, Black Hills produces some of the most consistently accurate ammo in the world. Ballistics by the inch is also a nice resource. WebRuger American .308 Winchester 22" Black Vortex Crossfire 3-9x40. seems they are Hornady 150 grain SP And because it is a box fed semi-auto in AR guise, it could be brutally efficient in the field. If to used as a precision rifle, add weight by adding a bipod, and bore a deep hole or two behind the butt plate, install lead shot to 3/4s depth, and reattach the butt plate. 3 inches measured from center of each shot. BTHP and the 155 gr. If you need a muzzle brake on a .308, youre in the wrong hobby. Of course, no matter how a rifle is made, if it wont shoot accurately, it is of no use to the man or woman behind the trigger. After 84 years, the throat on my M38 worn, yet still shoots good. (Speaking of maneuverability, the RPRs magazine-well front is contoured for a positive grip for bracing against shooting supports.). When you find a variety of ammo that shoots consistently in your bolt-action hunting rifle, then stock-up on it. Keep in mind that I have attended a precision rifle match once in my life. And, Ive heard this asked many, many times do you have any sniper rifles? and when that question is asked of me, Ill point to all the long guns on the racks. Ads are what helps us bring you premium content. here in Canada. Hats off to ruger. That said, if youre looking to put lead down range accurately, heres a general guideline for matching So plan on spending a minimum of $1,400 and probably closer to $1,800 when the dust settles to get your hunting gun on the level of functionality that the RPR brings to the table straight out of the box. The next email was to the rest of the crew at TTAG to say, Back off! Thats surprising as .308 has a reputation as being an inherently accurate, consistent cartridge. Why dont you ask this young lady how much her Anschuetz weighs? That gun comes from the factory with a threaded muzzle which will save you some money. We scratched our heads and called it a day. The best five-shot group was a touch under .6 MOA. Well, its not my rifle, but I sure as heck dont treat new barrels like that. Gave the landlord my Remington 700 bdl in a 22-250 for rent because I was short of money. I thoroughly enjoyed your review and agree. Im confident in saying that this is a problem across the whole line. Why? Cant even hit a 4 x 6 target at 1000 yds. I am not a comp shooter just a guy learning how to shoot But everyone at the range was impressed I was impressed thats the best I have ever shot. The proof is cut and wrapped up in my freezer. Letter: Advice on Oxygen and Moisture Absorbing Packets, Preparedness Notes for Monday January 6, 2020. I didnt perform a barrel break in of any type, I never cleaned it, and I got it glove-melting hot. http://www.tcsa.org Tri-Cities Shootiing Association. There just might another article in me on that, and several other gun related topics. Ruger did their homework on figuring out the things a precision rifle needs. Send it back and ask the manufacturer if theyve lost their minds. Nice review. Rather, they are the extreme. Many times, when they are busy, Ill step behind the counter to lend a hand with gun customers. Notify Me When Available. There wasnt much difference between the three hunting rounds when it came to accuracy. I think Im going to sell one and go with bolt action. Wish I had saved it, but American Rifleman did a review of a 16 with their 55 protocol and got ~1moa. First, the .308 is a more powerful round until well beyond what could be considered an ethical hunting range. Like I told the owner of 2 of these guns who bought them for rentals at his range, he said they wouldnt shoot MOA, I said call Ruger, raise hell and send them back. Just about every rifle I know of that guarantees 1/2 moa 5 shots at 100 yards have barrels longer that a measly 20 for example; Sako TRG 42, Remington 40X, any of Don Fraley builds (Advanced Weapons Technology) etc. $1,039.00 $989.99. All offer ambidextrous manual safeties and are a great option for an affordable long-range rifle. Generally they are accurized, but no more accurate than many modern hunting or target rifles. all day long. With that kind of accuracy, that is not that much money. Paid $1079.00. If youre willing to wait. The Creedmoor uses a smaller cartridge up to a maximum pressure of 62,000 psi, where as the Swede uses a larger case and slower powers at a much lower maximum pressure 46,000 cup (about 50,000 psi). They are virtually identical, but the Creedmoor is a tad faster, and because it is a modern rifle, and sold as a precision rifle, and factory ammunition is tailored for accuracy at long ranges, the rifle will likely be more accurate straight out of the box. 3MOA with 7.62 NATO surplus (acceptable), 2MOA with 175gr SMK handloads (not acceptable). Have topped it with a Vortex Viper PST 4-1650 on a LaRue mount. Couldnt close the bolt all the way so I couldnt fold stock and remove bolt to trouble shoot it. When will the madness end? I wish I could shoot mine. My ar15 and ar10 both shoot 3/4 moa at 100 yds but I hand load those rounds.. But its not like this one, and heres why. Trigger: Ruger Marksman Adjustable trigger, pull weight of 2.25 to 5 pounds; bolt disassembly tool is stored in the bolt shroud. So yes, remove that stupid brake and put a good flash HIDER in it. Gun Review: Ruger Precision Rifle in .308 WIN. I love the Black Hills .300 Win Mag load, and I managed to duplicate their accuracy, but I just couldnt exceed it no matter how hard I tried, and the same goes for the .308 Winchester caliber I could match Black Hills in the accuracy department, but never beat them. Even with slightly gusty conditions, a shooter has to do a bit more work to keep a .308 inside the same circle as a comparably built 6.5 Creedmoor. Please let others know they too can trust SurvivalBlog for the most reliable and practical survival information by voting for SurvivalBlog on topprepperwebsites.com. Apparently, that was back when men still made noises of large hardened steel bearings bouncing off each other whilst they walked to the firing line. It averaged about a .55 MOA with match grade factory ammo for the first 800 rounds through it. It will just cost more to practice with the Creedmore. With in 5 shots I was zeroed ( out of the box ). Folded Length35.60". Accuracy at long ranges. Two nearly completely in the same hole. Of course, well-trained military snipers have been known to take out a target as far away as a mile, but those are not the usual distances. One gentleman suggested that a simple recrowning might fix some of the issues I saw, and frankly, its possible that a good cleaning would help. Sniping is done from behind concealment (and hopefully cover, as well). I am getting my Viper HS-T properly mounted this week and will hit it again this weekend. The Black Hills Gold their hunting ammo, gave me groups slightly below one inch, if I did my part, and thats mighty fine for a hunting load. But the M4 crowd is fond of stuff like that. The .308 version ships with a very handy 20-inch barrel tipped off with the Ruger Hybrid Muzzle Brake. Just be sure to test different ammo varieties, to see what gives you the best accuracy, and I know youll find a load that your Ruger will like. This makes it easy for anyone one to quickly get into the long range precision game. I havent used the heaviest new bullets that could be considered Creedmoor; bullets, bullets over 142 grains, but have been reloading long enough to say stick with 140-142 grain bullets, SMK, Amax, Accubond etc, and RL22. In a 10lb 308? That requires 5.56/223 or .308 anyway. This is the part where Im going to immediately contradict myself it doesnt matter. Im not so concerned about this ones accuracy issues. When I finish moving back to North Carolina from California, its getting surpassed. Getting good hits became routine.and we ran out of 168s. My 20 inch AR10 pushes my 155 grain hornaday OTM load at 2811 FPS and consistently holds 1.5 MOA. Match Kings. No adjustments were made to optics. I like the Ruger Marksmanship Adjustable trigger, with a pull rating of 2.25-lbs to 5-pounds my sample came from the factory right at 3.25-lbs and I didnt see any need to adjust it any lighter, or heavier the pull weight was just perfect for my use. Maximum effective range is 1000 yards. With the 6.5 cm with 130 Berger hybrid, 42.5 gn of H4350, .015 of the lands you will shoot between .1 MOA to .3 MOA. Ruger has been producing some outstanding bolt-action hunting rifles for as long as I can remember and Im old, real old so I can remember a long time back. $1,039.00 $989.99. BTW, Mr. Tubb shoots better off-hand than most people shoot off a bench, and he has the awards to show for it. Only the military can legally shoot down people at long range, and for nothing more sinister than wearing the wrong clothing. Ive got just under 3,000 rounds through it and am paying close attention to groups for any signs of throat erosion. Call us if you have Questions 800-627-3809. The one thing I didnt care for was the use of so much polymer/plastic on them. Ruger Precision .308 Rifle, Review and range test by Pat Cascio Our mail forwarding address is: James Wesley, Rawles
The truck was a quarter mile walk, so one of us dug a couple of boxes of Czech 7.62 ball (144 gr) ammo out of a pack. (How did we ever win wars with metal butt plates? TK, barrel will shoot-in over time, or shoot-out? An RPR in 6.5 Creedmoor (review here) and one in .308 WIN . Its awesome they use standard mags but they are too short to handloads the bullets to an O.A.L. With the 6.5 CM you should expect no worse than .65-.75 MOA at any range up to 500 yards with minimal wind gusts. Still, when you are demanding your best efforts on each and every shot, it takes a toll on you, so that is one reason the shooting was conducted over the course of several days. My hand loads shoot 5-shot 0.5 MOA groups all day long. OMG, agree completely, and couldnt frankly believe such a thing was possible. I shot the Norma 178 gr. $588.49. Length of Pull12" - 15.50". Viewed together, the .308 looks like the 6.5s littler brother. The recoil should then be tolerable if you are recoil sensitive. To me, thats a must for a true precision rifle. I am fully stocked and geared for 308 and was hoping to expand my horizons with the RPR in 6.5 Creedmor. I suggest you buy a Bob-sled from Brownells & fire singles, or stop using olives in your RPR. Capacity10 Height7.30" Overall Length39.25"-42.75" Length of Pull12" - 15.50" Folded You cant really get 6.5 in bulk. WebDetailsThe Ruger Precision Rifle series is Rugers attempt to get in on the rising popularity of precision long range competitive shooting and it is a fine attempt at that. Cold hammer-forged 4140 chrome-moly steel barrel with 5R Rifling at minimum bore and groove I ran the 6.5 really hard during my testing. I will admit, I cant shoot that well all the time. It is sweet, but why bother when .308 covers most of what is needed, and over all is the most common and smartest cartridge to own. Plenty of choices. A-MAX anywhere from .9 to 1.3 MOA hot, cold, dirty, and clean. SST was the real stand out though, showing very consistent sub-MOA groups. In retrospect I probably should have gotten the 6.5 Creedmore. Soin short Ruger will make a killing selling this silly looking thing that shoots about as good as a $400 pawn shop deer rifle. A Savage 10TR (may be only a Canadian offereing) These come from the factory with a threaded, heavy barrel in either 20 or 24. , My .308 Ruger Precision Rifle w/Vortex PST optics shoots 2.5 MOA with168 Berger VLD. In the review above, you claim to have put a brake on this rifle but you didnt specify whether the groups were shot with or without the brake, or whether you tested for any effect of the brake on group size. I have built this combo, with the ESS chassis and was still able to throw a nice 4-16 Vortex scope on it and come in at about $1700 CAD (about $1300 USD). I still try to shoot with iron sights to keep my consistency intact. If you are looking for a good 308 rifle for long-range shooting, there are many great options to choose from. Weight and length dont matter so much when youre going to tote it to the firing line in a cart. I borrowed a hi-end scope to mount on the Ruger Precision Rifle, because I wanted to squeeze all the accuracy out of this gun as I possibly could. Theres not a single thing except for the AR-style aerospace-grade 7075-T6 aluminum lower receiver and CNC-machined 4140 chrome-moly steel upper receiver and one-piece bolt that a person with a minimum of tools couldnt swap out. My usual shooting spot already has over 30 of snow and it isnt yet Thanksgiving. I also know competitive shooters still use long barrels, and the real tack driver rifles always still seem to have long barrels. For my part, I am amazed on the number of growed -up men who reluctantly approach my 03 Springfield like it was a Safari rifle. Also includes: two, 10-round Magpul PMAG magazines. Lighter, shorter and is actually a 1/2MOA rifle. WRT the RPRs rattling safety selector, Ruger now has a free fix for it a spring that takes about a minute to install and solves the problem. Dont know for sure, but the Amax make large holes for exit wounds. My current .308 bolt gun is a 13 pound target rifle. Even with a worn throat, it will do sub MOA. Its just not a 1000 yrd. (1 review) You dont want a short, handy barrel when youre trying to connect at 1000 yards. Im guessing you bought both of them, no? Actually there are many reasons. Overall, I was very pleased and expect to get the accuracy sorted out on this rifle. Every single part of this gun is modular from the stock all the way to the barrel. The best was copper creek 142 and winchester 140 match. It eked out a couple sub-MOA groups, so it passes the 1 MOA for $1,000 rule of thumb.
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